That's .22 HORNET! I had a friend load up some .223 bullets in .22 Hornet for my 417 Stevens Walnut Hill and he had no problems with the .223 bullets. The .22 Hornet is a smaller cartridge and the action is larger than it needs to be for the round. Handoading for the .22 Hornet is a cinch too. The ideal coyote hunting cartridge is flat shooting, highly accurate, and won’t ruin pelts. 10 Early Ice … Up To 150 yds..22 Hornet will work..PAST 150 and up to 200 ( little more) .222 is The Choice..It is SUPER Accurate, Very Similar in Ballistic's to the .223 Rifle, and A Joy To Reload..cheap..15 cent's A Round..Coyote Wolf/Colo.. Hornet sounds like a louder 22 mag and .223 sounds more like a normal high power rifle. More versitile in bullet weight/type selection . I want to make a relatively quite tack driver. It will be bolt action with the works done to it. It was a little faster than the Hornet and in the right rifle it was very accurate. Stick it in the used guns classifieds. Easier to reload for due to case design. by Davies » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:12 pm Westy wrote:now who wants to buy a Tikka 223 super varmint. More Guns. The .22 Hornet was designed back in the 1920's and was based off the .22 WCF and makes for a good small varmint round if you can find a gun to shoot it. If you are reloading, the .222 will be fractionally cheaper … The sister magnum rimfires are around $0.40/round, while basic 223 ammo is about the same cost and it can be reloaded for quite a bit less. 22 Hornet vs .223 Remington. Search for 22 Hornet Hr Rifle Barrel And 22 Long Rifle Ammo Vs 223 Ads Immediately . Even if you buy nicer hunting ammo off the shelf, hunting 223 is usually no more than $1 a round. That is the only reason they make them, all the old hornets out there. The K Hornet was developed to overcome some of the problems common with the parent Hornet case. (exceptions exist) . Scott I use a CZ 17 Hornet, a Browning Low Wall in 22 Hornet and a 17 Remington Classic as well as a Model 7 in 223 Rem. The 204 Ruger is a vastly superior Varminting cartridge in so many respects to the 223 Remington. mainly I'm concerned about achieving good accuracy with cast boolits and have heard the Hornet can be … The .22 Hornet is usually considered America's first small bore smokeless powder varmint round. Nice to be different I'll still snag a .22 Hornet, maybe go K Hornet.....if I find a deal on a little Ruger. 60 posts • Page 2 of 2 • 1, 2. I own a 22 hornet & 22 K-hornet also. When looking at the .22LR vs .223, the truth is that the .223 is, in fact, a .22 caliber round. BTW, I know .223 makes more economical sense, but I've always craved these calibers. Consistently ranking among the Top 5 or Top 10 best selling rifle cartridges in the United States each year, the .223 Remington is by far the most popular of the group. By Chuck Hawks. They’re followed by the .204 Ruger and the .220 Swift. Auf kurzen entfernungen so bis 30m kann es schon mal etwas verlust geben, wenn man einen Knochen trifft. I'll likely go CZ. The muzzle blast of a .22 Hornet is not all that loud, although louder than a .22 rimfire. BTW, I have a .22 Hornet and a 223 Rem. The Hornet fills a useful niche while the .222 is ballistically identical to its cheaper cousin the .223. 22-250 vs 223 vs 204 Ruger vs 220 Swift: Ammunition Selection. More realistic is 200 yards. .223 bullets are meant for the .22 hornet. .223 Remington Discussion in 'General Rifle Discussion' started by Winchester94 , May 4, 2014. But the 204 Ruger cartridge in the world of Varminting is NOT a step DOWN in performance from the 223 Remington! Now I did have a H&R 22 hornet that would shoot ragid one hole groups at 100 yards with factory ammo. No one can dispute that the .223 is a far more powerful round but as said above .223 vs .22 hornet is apples vs oranges.Variety is the spice of life and both calibers have a pride of place in my gun cabinet in the form of a Browning X-BOLT IN .223 and my CZ527 Hornet. .22 Hornet .vs. IMHO the .223 Rem is a much more versatile cartridge than the 22 Hornet. This was an inevitable comparison after doing my 17HMR vs 22WMR article. A final note the CZ. Vs. .243 Win. and the like, the Hornet has an unmistakable advantage in terms of speed and energy. The biggest draw to them then and now is that they are not very loud. Extensive information about rifle cartridge trajectory. Try that with a .223 or .22-250. The Production of commercial rifles eventually saw the change from .223" to .224" groove diameters, today, Hornet projectiles are still offered in either .223" or .224" calibers. The Hornets are sweet too shoot & very accurate as is the 222. But still love the 222 overall. The first centerfire rifle I ever owned was a Savage model 23D in .22 Hornet, which had been modified to a K-Hornet configuration. Simply the good old .22 Hornet necked down to hold .172” bullets, the .17 Hornet uses light-for-caliber bullets to achieve respectable velocities. I was able to order them at the time but it was a few years back and I have not looked for them since. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .22 Hornet vs .22 LR Long Rifle ammo rounds. Rimfire bolt action rifles, lever action, pump action and self loading rifles. .222 - inherantly more accurate than .22 hornet (or .223) due to neck/case design . Its cheaper to shoot than a .222 or .22 Hornet and you have better ballistics. When compared to the 222, 223, 220 Swift, 22-250 they are down right quiet buggers. REJ: I think you should indeed acquire a 22 Hornet. Being from the early part of the 1900s this round was used widely on the farms and ranches at a time when most Americans actually worked on the farms. November 11, 2019. I have a Kimber Mdl 82 22 Hornet and a Remington 700 LS 221 Fireball. I am on the line between the .22 Hornet and a .223. Never felt the need for 22 Mag, since there is so much overlap between the 22 LR and Hornet. Why not .223? ( hornet cases can be tricky) Can be easily downloaded to .22 hornet ( or below) levels to reduce noise if you reload. Latest. The Hornet fills the niche between a .22 LR and most of the rest of the .22 centerfires. You might also have accuracy problems in the Hornet due to head space issues as a result of the case design that was taken over from the black powder days. I owned one of these rifles for a brief period and while it was accurate enough the magazine lips were very sharp on the sample I owned and severely gouged the brass. Bolt rig I'd split the diff and go .222.....since that's what I started with as a kid and everybody else has gone to .223. Nothing really……..until you examine the length and weight of the projectile. ... and will allow you to reach a bit further out. This allows them to be used to varmint hunt in more populated areas. Air rifles. I know both will reach 500yards pretty easy which is the furthest I will ever shoot it. Hornet is a neat little round but it doesn't serve a whole lot of purpose. The Hornet has a loyal following and is nice to have, but if a person was to own just one 22 caliber centerfire, I would much rather have the .223, especially at ranges approaching 200 yards. Bis 130m klappt das ganz gut. I use 22 LR, 22 Hornet, .223 and 6mm BR. You have some experience with it now, and some uses for it - obviously. Hornets are cool, esp in a trim rig. With 30-grain bullets, factory .22 WMR loads can top 2,200 fps, which is still about 900 fps slower than Federal's TNT .22 Hornet load with the same weight bullet. The .223 of course is extremely effective on groundhogs between 100 and 300 yards. I mainly want quite. And, sadly, I can't afford both. The Fireball is a moderen case with long case life when compared to the Hornet. The 22 Hornet is fantastic, and much quieter for use around the barnyard which is closer to neighbors houses. Fishing. 22WMR vs 223Rem vs 17HMR. Here’s a look at three of the best. In order to hit a distant target a rifle must be correctly sighted-in, and to accomplish that the shooter must have some working knowledge of the bullet's trajectory. The Hornets are limited on killing power for coyotes at longer ranges. I was told in my local RFD that .222 is being discontinued and no major manufacturers are making guns chambered in .222. By Ron Spomer. The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .17 HMR Hornady Magnum Rimfire vs .22 Hornet ammo rounds. .223.....yotes it's tough to beat a tricked AR. Noise and blast are much lower in it compared to .223. Also own 223 & 22-250's. Unless I'm working on depredation issues with crawfish farmers where multiple shots are the norm, I don't think a single shot poses any disadvantage in your case. The reasons that the .22 Hornet is still kicking while the .222 is fading are pretty simple. While the media loves to portray this as a ‘huge assault bullet’ and only meant for use in warfare, the truth is that a .223 round is a relatively small and not particularly powerful. The Hornet does about 2300 fps with 40 gr bullets while my short barreled (20") 223 Rem does 3080 fps with 55 gr bullets. Brass is cheap and the bullets are the same .224 diameter as the other .22 centerfires. Because the groove diameter of the .22 long rifle measured .223”, the Hornet was loaded with .223" caliber bullets. Ich habe eine .22 Hornet und eine .223 Für Hase, Kaninchen und die Krähen nehme ich nur noch die Hornet. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet w The Hornet case is long tapered thin case that head spaces on the rim . The 22 Hornet is very tapered and is only full diameter from the rim to 0.853 inches forward.The K Hornet looks like a regular rimless case like a 223 for example and the shoulder angle is 40 degrees with the case out to full diameter from the rim forward for 1.160 inches. And while both rounds fall well short of the capabilities of the hotter .223 Rem., .22-250 Rem. Bei der .223 kann man zwar weiter rauslangen, aber meistens sieht der Hase danach nicht mehr so schön aus. Have owned & shot them for 45+ years. 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